. >> jon, the other battle over chuck hagel, the president's choice for defense second. republicans in the senate temporarily blocked his nomination. how rare is that and what does that say about the likelihood he'll get the job? >> well, it's extremely rare. i have to say this is one of the most bizarre episodes i have covered in congress because you had republicans blocking his nomination, blocking the vote on his nomination. but saying that when they come back from their recess next week, that they will no longer block it. so it looks like he will get through without any problem but whenever there's a delay there are questions raised. not a sure thing raising a question what they're trying to accomplish with a delay of a week or two ands that where it stands right now. >> indication of how partisan things are in washington right now. jon, thanks so much. great to see you. >>> a couple of very big names on jon's show, republican congressman and former vice presidential candidate paul ryan and newly appointed white house chief of staff denis mcdonough coming up on "this